The screen size of the pn-40 looks the same size as the pn-20 is that right? I returned my pn-20 because it was too small. I need at least a 3 inch screen other wise I would buy yours in other respects it looks superior to the competition.
Was out today, temp. was 8 degrees, and the buttons on the PN20 where so touchy that it would change screens with the slighets touch. I ran it against a Garmin Etrex Legend C, and sorry to say that the Delorme unit lost the sky view more times than the Garmin, maybe it is just my unit. Again the plastic clip that hold the media card in place broke, guess this was due to the cold. As for the PN40, it would be an
improvement to have added another button to LOCK out the other buttons, Buttons on both the 20 and the 40 are just to easy to hit and change, but then I use my GPS units for Search and Rescue, which does push the units to the extreme. One thing with ALL brands of 3-400 dollar units is that the manufactur was not thinking when they designed units, most do not work well unless kept in a horizontal plane. Someone needs to redesign a unit that when carried in a holster on your shoulder has a top mounted antenna, or at least one that has some angle to the antenna.
I like my pn-20 and all of it’s features, but I also like to have the latest and newest equipment.Why wouldn’t a company with great equipment and programs offer their costumers some kind of UPGRADE for the equipment they already have at about half the cost to buying all new gear when new ones come out?? It seems to me that the pn-20 and the latest pn-40 se are the same size, the programing is different. Why do I have to buy a new one, times are getting rough and I can’t afford a new pn-40. I’m sure there is a way the pn-20 can be brought up to date with the new pn-40 se softwear.
Ron Handke: The PN-Series devices use a patch antenna that gets the best signal when oriented horizontally as you’ve described. I do have good results with the new PN-40 when it is in my bird vest pocket or hunting jacket pocket and those orientations are move vertical like you need. I’ll add a feature request to our tracking system for the lock-out option that you described. Check in with Tech Support regarding your broken SD card latch, they will be able to talk through your options depending on the age of your device. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
I bought a PN-20 a couple of years ago. We wanted to set it up to support my son on App Trail and me out west. It was a disaster. We bought all kinds of data sets from Delorme but could not get ANYTHING TO LOAD OR WORK PREOPERLY. We spent a lot of money for a bright yellow paper weight. The procedures were complex, and even when talked through them we had trouble and could not repeat what little success we had.
We are of average intelligence and technically savy. I am a physicist, my son is an engineer. We have at least six GPS units in cars, boats and handhelds. They are all Garmins. They are easy to load, easy to use and have performed flawlessly for many years. The claimed feature sets of the PN series exceed Garmins, but the Garmins at least can be used and are accurate.
To the point: I wanted the PN-20 to work, I might even try to forget our bad experience and look at a PN-40. For that to happen, I would need a humongous ammount of assurance that the rediculously complex loading procedures have been simplified and made user friendly. Unfortuneately, my intersts take me to the 4 Courners area of the country every chance I get. As expected: Little color aerial photo coverage of Utah and none for New Mexico. What the heck is that about? The missing coverage material is out there and available on Google Earth.
Anyway, I went to your site with high hopes. At least I am persistent.
I agree, Al. I’m a geographer, by way of 10 years experience as a surveyor. I get my PN-20 out a couple times a year and re-familiarize myself with the difficult procedures only to be disappointed again by its poor performance, convoluted software and serious lack of good imagery. What is the point?
Hi just wanted to ask if there are detailed maps and support available on the pn 40 for the uk. I really like the look of the unit and want to get away from garmin
thanks
steve
Why suggest moving to the U.S. You can’t even get coverage for all of the United States, ie. Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Hawaii, etc. even though they have all been maped by the U.S. government with USGS cartography. I have suggested several times to Delorme that they add this coverage to their web site but never even have received the courtesy of a reply.
I have downloaded the free Data Downloads in the past, but have since changed computers and upgraded Street Atlas USA and Topo USA. I can’t find the data downloads. I backed up the old computer and have everything on an external hard drive. What is the default location of the data downloads and the file extension? Thanks.
How come your street map has the St Pamphile Qubebec border there and topo 8 doesn’t.I have sent in corrections a couple of times no help.I would you would want a topo map to be correct.I know it is there as I use it all the time. Since it end up in Maine I would think you would know.
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September 12, 2008 at 11:52 am |
The screen size of the pn-40 looks the same size as the pn-20 is that right? I returned my pn-20 because it was too small. I need at least a 3 inch screen other wise I would buy yours in other respects it looks superior to the competition.
September 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
I can’t seem to access the delorme web page, is it down?
December 7, 2008 at 4:56 pm |
Was out today, temp. was 8 degrees, and the buttons on the PN20 where so touchy that it would change screens with the slighets touch. I ran it against a Garmin Etrex Legend C, and sorry to say that the Delorme unit lost the sky view more times than the Garmin, maybe it is just my unit. Again the plastic clip that hold the media card in place broke, guess this was due to the cold. As for the PN40, it would be an
improvement to have added another button to LOCK out the other buttons, Buttons on both the 20 and the 40 are just to easy to hit and change, but then I use my GPS units for Search and Rescue, which does push the units to the extreme. One thing with ALL brands of 3-400 dollar units is that the manufactur was not thinking when they designed units, most do not work well unless kept in a horizontal plane. Someone needs to redesign a unit that when carried in a holster on your shoulder has a top mounted antenna, or at least one that has some angle to the antenna.
December 16, 2008 at 11:03 am |
I like my pn-20 and all of it’s features, but I also like to have the latest and newest equipment.Why wouldn’t a company with great equipment and programs offer their costumers some kind of UPGRADE for the equipment they already have at about half the cost to buying all new gear when new ones come out?? It seems to me that the pn-20 and the latest pn-40 se are the same size, the programing is different. Why do I have to buy a new one, times are getting rough and I can’t afford a new pn-40. I’m sure there is a way the pn-20 can be brought up to date with the new pn-40 se softwear.
December 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm |
Ron Handke: The PN-Series devices use a patch antenna that gets the best signal when oriented horizontally as you’ve described. I do have good results with the new PN-40 when it is in my bird vest pocket or hunting jacket pocket and those orientations are move vertical like you need. I’ll add a feature request to our tracking system for the lock-out option that you described. Check in with Tech Support regarding your broken SD card latch, they will be able to talk through your options depending on the age of your device. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
John Olenick: Our marketing director has responded to the upgrade request on our forum, please follow this link for more information: http://forum.delorme.com/viewtopic.php?t=15660
Thank you both for your comments.
Chip Noble
DeLorme
January 18, 2009 at 11:38 am |
I bought a PN-20 a couple of years ago. We wanted to set it up to support my son on App Trail and me out west. It was a disaster. We bought all kinds of data sets from Delorme but could not get ANYTHING TO LOAD OR WORK PREOPERLY. We spent a lot of money for a bright yellow paper weight. The procedures were complex, and even when talked through them we had trouble and could not repeat what little success we had.
We are of average intelligence and technically savy. I am a physicist, my son is an engineer. We have at least six GPS units in cars, boats and handhelds. They are all Garmins. They are easy to load, easy to use and have performed flawlessly for many years. The claimed feature sets of the PN series exceed Garmins, but the Garmins at least can be used and are accurate.
To the point: I wanted the PN-20 to work, I might even try to forget our bad experience and look at a PN-40. For that to happen, I would need a humongous ammount of assurance that the rediculously complex loading procedures have been simplified and made user friendly. Unfortuneately, my intersts take me to the 4 Courners area of the country every chance I get. As expected: Little color aerial photo coverage of Utah and none for New Mexico. What the heck is that about? The missing coverage material is out there and available on Google Earth.
Anyway, I went to your site with high hopes. At least I am persistent.
September 13, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I agree, Al. I’m a geographer, by way of 10 years experience as a surveyor. I get my PN-20 out a couple times a year and re-familiarize myself with the difficult procedures only to be disappointed again by its poor performance, convoluted software and serious lack of good imagery. What is the point?
February 4, 2009 at 11:29 am |
Hi just wanted to ask if there are detailed maps and support available on the pn 40 for the uk. I really like the look of the unit and want to get away from garmin
thanks
steve
February 20, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
Support is available. Even in the UK!! : )
Browse to forum.delorme.com and you’ll get more than you can handle.
As for UK maps, I dunno. You could always move to the US…
June 14, 2009 at 1:50 pm |
Why suggest moving to the U.S. You can’t even get coverage for all of the United States, ie. Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Hawaii, etc. even though they have all been maped by the U.S. government with USGS cartography. I have suggested several times to Delorme that they add this coverage to their web site but never even have received the courtesy of a reply.
June 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm |
What does it take to get a response from Tec Support?
I need another MapLibrary Key.
June 27, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Please contact Customer Service via telephone.
http://www.delorme.com/customerservice/contactus.aspx
June 27, 2009 at 10:56 pm |
Thanks,
I’ll try them again.
September 19, 2009 at 1:51 pm |
I have downloaded the free Data Downloads in the past, but have since changed computers and upgraded Street Atlas USA and Topo USA. I can’t find the data downloads. I backed up the old computer and have everything on an external hard drive. What is the default location of the data downloads and the file extension? Thanks.
November 15, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
How come your street map has the St Pamphile Qubebec border there and topo 8 doesn’t.I have sent in corrections a couple of times no help.I would you would want a topo map to be correct.I know it is there as I use it all the time. Since it end up in Maine I would think you would know.